Tony’s Travel Journal
I'm Not Angry
Aug 9, 2009, 11:57 AM | Comments (150) | Permalink
Let me come right out and say it. I love San Francisco. I am helpless and unwavering in my affection--in spite of every effort over the years to find fault, to dismiss, to sneer. And there's surely lots to sneer at, San Francisco and the Bay being pretty much the epicenter of so many of my most cherished aversions: political correctness, veganism, rich hippies, sanctimoniousness about food, food fetishism, animal rights terrorists, gastro-dogma, and loud locavores who actually get their produce flown in from Chino Farms in San Diego.
But at this point, I bore even myself railing against the above. Hell, I'm not even bitter about San Francisco taking the lead in banning smoking anymore. They won that battle long ago. Game over.
I guess it's like any love that's true--sooner or later you learn to accept the good, bad and silly all together. It's all part of the package when you know, without any question, that you want the package. It doesn't even matter if one's love is returned.
Okay ... it does still drive me berserko watching a blissed out St. Alice, burning up a few cords of firewood (in Berkeley no less!) to cook two eggs for an unusually credulous Lesley Stahl.
But in general, I got it all wrong, didn't I?
It may be the town of Alice Waters but it's also home to Dirty Harry. The Grateful Dead? Yes. But also the Dead Kennedys. The excrutiating and treacherous lite FM sounds of the Jefferson Starship? True enough. But also Blue Cheer, the Count Five, Big Brother, Sly and Family Stone and the greatest band that never was: the Brian Jonestown Massacre. None of these entities could have come from--or taken root--anywhere else.
I don't think you could have one San Francisco without the other. If the San Francisco area weren't the perceived headquarters of anti-foie gras forces, I doubt very much there'd be an opposing force doing something as crazy as developing a foie gras vodka. I don't know that a less crunchy community would require a stuck-joyously-in-time museum of beef like House of Prime Rib. It's like a yin and yang thing ... a balance, man, one thing creates a need for another.
San Francisco, underneath a gossamer thin veneer of granola is in fact, a two-fisted drinking town, a place of oversized martinis, silver zeppelins overloaded with bleeding slabs of meat, restaurants you could call "institutions" that defiantly refuse to suck, and in an ever tidier, cleaner, Disneyfied world--where even New York's Times Square looks like a theme park, still, a delightfully nasty, dirty, beautiful, carnivorous, vice-filled town.
And you can, apparently, recklessly careen around town at high speed in a rented Mustang (from whom we received, by the way, absolutely no money, consideration or thing of value), shooting guerilla-style, possibly without appropriate permits or safety precautions--and the local constabulary can be remarkably understanding. I doubt they would have been as tolerant of the impromptu filming of a car chase where I'm from.
Oh ... and I'd like to mention that though Swan Oyster Depot does not appear in the show (because we shot a segment there for the previous series), I ate there almost every day while shooting in town. Mopping fat and roe out of those Dungeness crab backs with sourdough bread and washing it down with a cold beer? Perfect happiness.
Posted by: Anthony Bourdain
I'm happy to hear that I'm not the only one who saw the hypocrisy of Alice Waters baking eggs for two in a wood fired oven.
tony, i think you accurately describe the love/hate relationship that many people, locals like myself included, struggle and fall in love with again and again.
next time you come to town, hit up humphrey slocombe for some foie gras ice cream or mission street food for foie gras on a stick. can't wait to see the new episode.
foie gras vodka!
As a local girl I can affirm the truth you saw that "underneath a gossamer thin veneer of granola is in fact, a two-fisted drinking town". Unfortunately the trustafarians, locavores and vegans like to preach their dogma at full volume, and i try to ignore it and enjoy my tecate and $1.50 carne asada tacos.
Oh how I would love to produce such pictures with words. Well Done.
Coming up from Monterey, I always took SanFran as a blue-collar, aggressive port city that was more down than up, for most people, since the time that most people have made it a city.
The mental infusion of infusions of incense and patchouli, the follies of foie gras lovers and foie gras haters, the bucks spent to take care of the homeless and to get rid of the homeless, the ridiculous sewer stench of failing drains, the circle of Hummers circling the parking lots to "buy local" at the Ferry Building, the rank hypocrisy of million-dollar home owners sneering at the wealthy while taking in the latest news on the latest great taquerias in SoMa: what a hell of a town.
You wouldn't really want to live there, except you would, and you, like every other San Franciscan, would juggle your money and your ethics and your religion to find pockets of whatever you perceive to be your sanity, and succor them and suck on them, just to keep staying there. I can't think of another city in the US save NY where you'd commit to that, and give up so much of yourself, just to //be.//
Strangely, I went to Swan's because I saw it on your previous series. When I was there, there was a man sitting beside me talking to the owner about you. That man turned out to be the owner of House of Prime Rib and apparently he had just missed you because he was in New Zealand when you ate there. Just thought I'd mention it because a very strange coincidence for me.
You know, you could be describing almost anywhere in the US these days. San Francisco doesn’t have the monopoly on schizo PC anymore. It’s insidious. I haven’t been anywhere in the States in the past 10 years or so that doesn’t have its share of Hummer driving, holier than thou, for want of a better word…yuppies (I know I’m dating myself here).
I was born and raised in North Carolina. There was a smoking area in my junior high school. I never stood a chance. I was always destined to be a smoker. Tobacco was the local industry and the kids whose parents had tobacco farms started school a few weeks late. I spent a summer working in the tobacco fields. You think working in a kitchen is hard, try being a field hand for a few weeks. Now, NC, the smoker’s last haven, is about to go non-smoking in restaurants and bars. Damn. But non-smokers aside, tons of people are still lighting up in NC.
If you’re lucky (at least in NC), you can still stop by the side of the road and buy a canteloupe that will bring you to tears. Or you can go to Whole Foods and buy whatever you want, shipped from wherever. Organic mac-n-cheese in a box? They’ve got it.
Being a locavore is a luxury for those who live in Alice Waters’ World. Good for them. As for me, I’ve lived on a small island in the Caribbean for the past 16 years. I’ll have to get most of my food shipped in if I don’t want to live exclusively on mangoes and ground provisions. I’d love to live in a place with an asparagus season and a porcini mushroom season. Which basically means I want to live in Italy.
BTW, the most snooty, PC, a-holes I’ve found have been in Seattle. It’s also home to killer seafood, produce and some really nice people (when you get them on their own and they’re not in a pack).
Who'd have thunk it? Perhaps my next trip stateside should be to SF. Also - please, please, please can SOMEONE start showing Tony on UK television? That would be, you know, good.
Love and hate are sooo close that they merge in a place like SFO and NYC.
I love your show. My family watches it all the time, even reruns. Our favorite is Romania, very funny! I gotta tell you, though, our 6 year old (who watches also) thinks you and Tom Bergeron are the same guy! Lol. So he thinks YOU host the dancing show and America's Funniest Home Videos. ;-)
This makes you sound like the guy that uses Vaseline to prepare for hot poker penetration.
BTW, did they serve any Cleveland Steamers at the Swan Oyster Depot or are they strictly oysters?
i had a really tasty meal at this joint called Mix i think. couldn't find anything online about it though.
I like when you talk 'bout real classic punk bands on your posts...
Oh, I'm gonna give it everything I've got. Lady Luck's with me, the dice stay hot. Got coke up my nose to dry away the snot, so...
Viva Las Vegas!
Haha just kiddin' Tony :)
Have a nice week..
Cheers from Mexico!
well..your commentary is full of cliches tony. i love you and your blue collar vibe, but you were sucker punched into looking for the cliches and you found them. you know each city is different depending on the eye of the beholder-such is life. i have lived here for three years and you need to ask a true local where to find the hidden gems of sf. sf has neighbourhoods with distinct histories and flavours-sunset, richmond, mission-very distinct from yuppie noe valley, marina, SOMA-did you hit the american bison in golden gate park, the retro authentic diner called Louie's on ocean beach, the best authentic sushi in japantown? looking forward to seeing "your" version of sf ;)
Amen Tony!
Although I have to say, when it comes to obnoxious granola crunchiness, Berkeley is far more to blame than San Francisco is.
I'm a transplant from the LA area who has been living in the Bay Area for over 10 years, and Berkeley and Alice Waters type pretentiousness both make me want to scream.
San Francisco loves you too, buddy: http://7x7.com/blogs/bits-bites/anthony-bourdain-cant-help-sf
For many of us that live here (and have had families here for generations) the sudden onslaught of dirty, granola-munching, patchouli'd out hippies in the latter part of the 1960s was unexpected. Unfortunately, they've proven to be louder than us, forcing their ultra-moonbat rabbit food on those of us who still like our steaks medium rare with a side of whatever tastes best, washed down with a martini or three. Restaurants like Sam's, Alfred's, Tadich, and the aforementioned House of Prime Rib are still in business for a reason.
and to dee - I hope you're kidding about louis' (louie's). that place has always been, and will continue to be, a trap for starving tourists who couldn't get into the Cliff House. and the best sushi in SF isn't in japantown ;)
When people from elsewhere come here with this preconceived notion that SF is nothing more than a hippy dippy Disneyland, with crazy liberal PC on every streetcorner, they are surprised to find that hey guess what - that's not the case at all , aside from a few areas, this is actually a pretty mellow town. For all the headline grabbing locals who scream loudly, there are the rest of us who like to have a fun time, and enjoy a wide array of things people Elsewhere like as well.
Hopefully you made your way out to the westside, where many of SF's best treasures are hidden from the land of the hipster and the trendoid, where you have diversity and all sorts of great stuff. No , really.
Thank you for so eloquently wording what is also my love/hate relationship with the Bay Area.
Yes, I have the same Love / Hate relationship with San Francisco. I do however have fond memories of cruising up there with dad, while living in Cupertino... and going and doing all of the perfectly touristy Fisherman's wharf stuff, the wax museum, the foggy trips across the bay to acatraz on cold mornings. Often seeing the same sights over and over again, but the city never lost any of it's charm. It's endearing and delightful in it's quirkiness. My mother would laugh, not hide our eyes... while we drove through North Beach to go to Little Joe's eatery. It's too bad you didn't get to cover that one in a show... they've moved out of that neighborhood and are a bit more sterile.. but just as honest with their food as always. They used to serve their wine in amber plastic Sysco pizzeria style cups, all the furniture was unmatched as were the chairs... and there was this huge mural of the bay on the wall. The buzz of the crowd lined up at the bar watching the chefs do their work really added to the place. So that was quite a tangent but my overall point is that I think San Francisco means many things to many people. But unlike most cities, it somehow easily finds a niche in every visitor's heart that will never be forgotten or unappreciated.
@Elena, agreed. Super burrito al pastor w/everything from El Farolito (24th and Mission) and an ice cold Negra Modelo for me.
The best example of yin yang is the single block where both a raw vegan restaurant and a burrito joint with cow eye tacos.
The best sushi is not in j-town, but the freshest homemade manju is...
I don't think he has much room to lecture others on sanctimony. He's more full of it than anyone in SF.
To a certain extent, those proclaiming their hatred for Berkeley and Alice Waters-pretentiousness have almost become a worse cliche than the people they claim to be so dissimilar from. The "I'm so blue collar and down to earth because I eat street food and drink crappy beer" is the hallmark of the current hipster reverse-snobs and it's more than a little disingenuous. OK, so Alice and the rest of the people in Berkeley can be loud and overbearing and occasionally hypocritical. Congrats, you got 'em on that one. But at least they care about SOMETHING and are trying to do SOMETHING, which saying something way more than the hipster elite and Southpark nihilists who seem to take satisfaction only in throwing stones at anyone who really puts themselves out there. God forbid anyone who tries to make the world a better place have any faults of their own.
Tony tony tony...
come on. I thought we had a deal! You talked smack about SF, made it sound like it was full of pretentious yuppy food, vegan waffles and tourist traps serving canned crab - and we pretended to be outraged.
The last thing we want is for people in other places to know that we've got real people living here, who like real food and real drink. We don't want anyone else to know about the Carnitas or the Banh Mi or the thick-cut Veal Chops or the Chicken and Waffles. We don't want anyone to think we like chasing an old school burger with Russian River beer or enjoy quaffing Hanger One Gimlets at lunch. We like our foggy morning walks along Crissy Field and we like catching a movie at the Bridge or the Castro in peace.
I mean seriously!
it's already WAY too damn expensive to live here.
Listen up folks - there is no honest food in SF. It's all garden burgers and wheat grass. If you were to order Foie anywhere in SF, PETA would send a hit squad within 15 minutes.
tony... how could you do this to us!
If you liked the food fetishism of San Francisco, you'll love what's going on here in Tijuana. One guy serves "chef-caught tuna". Another one plates entrées on paving tiles. Come on down! And not just to burst a few bubbles. The gringo bloggers who write about the area are completely gaga over these excesses, so you can get in without reservations to lots of really good places that refuse to indulge in the RayRayification of Baja.
Dear Anthony Bourdain,
Please fall in love with me. Because I just fell in love with you.
Your future lover,
Terika
I don't really get the animosity towards Alice Waters. The woman can cook. Her staff can cook. They go off and start great local joints including the amazing Fra'mani, a temple of cured pork goodness started by a Chez Panisse alumnus that has probably shortened my life expectancy by ten years. Yes, she's a little weird. Most passionate people are.
As to SF itself: it's a cold, foggy city with visible homelessness, it's relatively difficult to get around in, it's very, very expensive, there's a consistent pattern of weirdness that defies explanation ... all of this is to say that, the people who live in SF, really want to be there. And that's what makes it a great city, not a drab suburb.
Also, it's not that there's a yin/yang, so much as the city enables people to experiment and some of their ideas become more influential than others over time. More than many places, the open culture means it has a real marketplace of ideas and not a top-down traditionalist vibe.
IMO 'yuppies', newcomers, vegans, 'locavores', etc. etc. aren't a threat or a problem; they are a product of the open culture of the city. The only real threat to SF's continued coolness is the pervasive Fun Police that has overtaken the city government. But that's commentary for another blog ...
I am excited to see tonight's episode. Having lived in the bay area all of my life, i definitely have a love/hate relationship with teh place and with the city(sf as we call it in the south bay). I love the diners, the bars, the nightlife culture that is seriously missing from the corporate/ultra lounge places in San Jose. I love hitting up Haight street for some shopping, although the older i get the more annoyed i get with all of the hippies around there. I love the Giants, and that stadium is the best in the country. The feel of the ocean breeze, the fog, the smell in the air, the beauty in the midst of the filth, and an area for every culture in the world is within this 10 square miles of a city. It is a place like no other.
Yeah, there are alot of hippies, tree huggers, protesters, prius drivers, yuppies, etc...but i associate those people more with Berkely than SF.
Getting back to the smoking law. I am not a heavy smoker, so i am happy not to have it blowing in my face inside a restaurant, but it is getting worse than that in the bay area. There are whole apartment complexes that don't allow smoking on the premesis. I decided to move out of my campbell apartment, because a law was passed that no grills were allowed in any apartments or townhomes in all of the city and i couldnt accept that. Where do you draw the line, no candles allowed in your house? No smoking within city limits? I love the area, but if things get more uptight and regulated, i might have to move unfortunately.
If still in the area, we invite you to have SF's own Pisco Punch with us.
One reporter of the day said:
"It will make a gnat flight an elephant"
Pauline Jacobson 1912
Cheers!
Just watched the show. Not bad...you held back dumping on the city, i could tell...abit too nice. I was born and raised here not that it matters, but you got the basics.
Ok - I am completely taken by Anthony Bourdain. I watch his show more than once per day. His insight far outshines his need to use four letter words to appeal to the beer gut coach potato crowd.
But - not every thing he eats can be the best.
In tonight's San Francisco show he praised a sandwich made with orange cheese! Come on - that's the kind of mistake that reveals what's really going on.
Someone needs to introduce Alice Waters to the Cleveland Steamer... or Alabama Hot Pocket... Your final line (cheesburger = remedy to alice) made me smile.
As one of the shows biggest fans it pains me to say this but I must- the San Francisco show was one of the worst of the series and Bourdain should be ashamed and his producer should be fired. Regardless of what your feelings are about Alice Waters and the slow food movement/local/organic, or the rich that live in SF, it is one of the greatest food cities in the country and deserved more than highlighting taco carts at Fisherman's Warf and in Oakland, going to a stupid sandwich shop and a sushi bar in which 95% of the fish is brought in from Japan. Oh, and really, no mention of Napa and Sonoma and wine country, no Thomas Keller?!- I know it's cliche, but a good producer could do something interesting and different. And before you assume I'm some food snob who can't appreciate slumming it with food, know that I live in NYC- Uptown-and by Uptown I don't mean Upper West Side. AB- you owe San Fran, your viewers and yourself a re-do on that show!
First of all, Paula - get a life. This *was* a re-do. The first time around he went to TFL. Keller and his then protege Achatz prepared a special tobacco dish. If you think this show didn't showcase Tony's love for SF - you weren't watching the same show as the rest of us. BTW, if you believe that the best sushi tane can come from anywhere but Tsukiji, you are most certainly not a "food snob" - at least, not a good one.
But I mostly wanted to talk to those Baltimore bozos that thought Tony did them so wrong on last week's show. Compared to SF (or NYC, or NOLA, or any other real food city), Baltimore is not even close. That comes through loud and clear when you watch these shows next to each other. It's the city - the people, what they think of as good food - that makes the difference between a food city and one that just plain isn't. When Tony hits a food city like SF, he knows it. He shows his love, even as he hits on the hypocrisies and nonsense that may live there along with the absolutely incredible foodstuffs. That doesn't make Baltimore and Buffalo and all these other secondary food cities in the US terrible places to eat - there are uniquely good and interesting places and Tony finds some of them. But let's all get real about what good food is, and where it is.
I live in the Oakland Hills and being able to look out over the Bay and see the City skyline is a good way to start a day's work. You're correct- it's a yin and yang place, full of contradictions that somehow have found a way to peacefully co-exist. This episode is one of your best, almost as good as Beirut.
The first time you said "you can taste that it died screaming" I thought it was funny. By the third repetition, it was self-indulgent stale schtick. And as for "still, a delightfully nasty, dirty, beautiful, carnivorous, vice-filled town." Aren't you a little too old to find human misery romantic?
Becoming less and less your fan every day.
Say it ain't so, Tony...
Just when I think you are going to step up to the bat about the history of SF and hit one into the bay explaining the heritage of 'discord, contradictions, contrariety, and WTF?' of this beloved city, you decide to listen to all the TV marketing gurus and toss up a ball of pablum about SF as if it was born no earlier than the age of Aquarius, Hunter S. Thompson, as well as throw a sneering grin at the mention of 'poetry.' And then, yes, there were all those balks with the predictable car scenes from 'Bullit' you bounced to homeplate (duh)...
I've been singing your praises about how you tie history and literature to the culture and food scene of where you travel, and you decide to offer up Eliot's "Hollow Men" (and Women including Saint Alice) just to do your 'Quixotic jousting at windmills' against the counterculture of Vegans, Treehuggers, and Animal Rights nazis etc. You never mention where IT came from....or at least start with the bohemians of the SF Poetry Renaissance, Kenneth Rexroth, Patchen, Six Gallery, Ginsberg's "Howl', Ferlinghetti, City Lights Bookstore, Snyder, Kerouac, et al.
Sheeshe Tony! the seminal battle that created the legal definition of "obscenity" was fought in in SF and you show (instead) some 'quickie' shots of the porno district in SF instead of paying homage to the freedom you have to not be censored from TV and just instead issue a 'parental warning' to viewers? WTF? Maybe you are trading in your bad boy image for something the marketing suits have convinced you is better and improved. Is 'Vic' dead?
This is not about the foodie aspects of the program (although I am a bit tired of the street/local dive food stuff that you do more and more and I can see on Food network's Triple D pablum..) My concern is that when you talk about food from another country (i.e. Chile, etc) you place things in a historical context, but you seemed to go out of your way to just 'dis' St Alice when you said you didn't think about where your patty melt burger came from in SF as long as it tasted good, and you still 'rave' about the food prep/ingredients in Spain..
I do think you struck out tonight howling about what makes SF a special place to enjoy the culture and food (and I'm not talking about 'Martini-icks'), but what the hell, even The Great Casey left them no joy in Mudville.
toadrunner
You let that go out? Re-do!!! The worst episode. Hmm maybe not as bad as the Rust Belt one.
Loved the hot car Tony was driving through the streets of San Francisco. But I don't think Tony left his heart in San Francisco. The food he got form the taco truck looked really good and the tamoles he ate at the framers market looked also good too.
For all the politically correct aspirations misled San Franciscans've cast upon their otherwise wonderful city - and it is truly, truly wonderful - their efforts are but a momentary fad pitted up against the city's long history of dirt, grease, blood and fire. The city's visceral self has long since been baked into the bricks - and not an army of vegans can scrub it out.
Besides, they don't do dim sum like they do it in SF. Cheap tin steamers, succulent pork spiked with jalapeno peppers. Bloody heaven, I swear it.
Ahh, I love it when a traveler descends upon our city, head full of stereotypes and learns that SF is not the land of the hippies, but land of the the stark raving contrasts. You also forgot to visit the Mission's Indian ice cream parlor, no cardamom ice cream for you!
Show was strange. It felt more like SF from the 90's than 2009. The Pirate radio scene was relevant, but zam zam, tadich grill, house of prime rib, red's java house? really? I was waiting for the Sears Fine Foods segment.
what about Brenda's, Magnolia's, Little Star?
whatever, I guess anyone who has their city profiled feels like this.
I did want to point out an oversight in need of serious correction. It looked like Anthony was eating a pupusa at the taco truck in Oakland. A PUPUSA IS NOT A TACO.
That Anthony didn't mention this missed a huge point about the food culture in the Bay Area.
For a show that promotes awareness of this sort thing this is just sloppy.
I loved the SF episode. I was especially amazed at the amount of food you consumed!! How do you eat that much and stay so slim?
He smokes 200 cigarettes every hour
All I have to say is that Oakland is the Bay Area's biggest secret, especially concerning Mexican and Vietnamese food...Too bad Tony only goes to SF.
The SFO show was ok, not up to the usual standards. If I remember correctly Tony mentioned his travels on the coast as zigzaging back and forth between cities which upon reading seemed to be crazy. When a schedule like that is laid out, something is bound to be cheated quality wise.
Alittle less racing and chasing and more focus on specific areas.
Tony and the Crew are still primo!!!!
I think you're confusing Berkeley and San Francisco.
Love your show. You always strive to be fair. I live in SF. And it may be a good place to visit, but it is a vortex. It takes all and gives very little in return.
I lived in the bay area all my life and many of the Berkeley and Oakland restaurants were as good as SF but cheaper and easier to get to. The rule I found in SF was that if it had parking, it was for tourists.
Of course, now he has to go to Thailand next which will make my wife homesick.
Odd choice of restaurants in SF, but you can see that there was good food everywhere.
Hey Tony! We're big fans of yours & would like to thank you doing a SF show! Come back again for other delicious goodies>>> we love you!!!
Little Star? Really? It's an overhyped hipster deep-dish place that, honestly, isn't really that great. I've been there a few times and while it's never terrible, I always find that, when it comes to deep-dish, I greatly prefer Paxti's.
The bigger problem is that it clearly is trying as hard as possible to be hip. They don't need the exposure and they're really not doing anything notable, different, or new enough to warrant even more coverage.
I would say that Benkyodo should possibly have been covered. They're one of the founding businesses of Japantown, came back after the internment, and are still a family-owned business producing something that largely can't be found in most of this country. At the same time, it's America and not Japan. Yes, we have them here, but this is a show about SF, not how lucky we are to have access to Japanese food. Do they really add to our uniqueness?
Cheers, Tony, Finally you make a show about the best city in California. I can't believe you didn't go to Chinatown, Japantown, Koreatown...Bro, you offended many by drinking a Heineken and not a Sierra Nevada!!! You came correct with that Anchor Steam in the final sequence, but what's up with that Yankees t-shirt under your supple leather jacket??? As a writer, I can't believe you didn't pay homage to Jack Kerouac. I have to say, you lost some street cred with me for this episode...
Hey Tony- is it actually true that you're such a stuck-up New Yorker to the extent that you'd refuse to ever do a show on Philadelphia? I believe it, you giraffe of a jerk.
I live in the Bay Area. I transplanted here from So. Cal 13 years ago. And though San Francisco itself offers great food, I'd like to invite you back for a show, based on the theme "Anywhere but San Francisco" or "Do You Know the Way to San Jose?"
Yes, San Francisco has great, old-school bars and fabulous dining experiences (Michael Mina's was expensive but sublime). However, great food does not stop at the county and city limit. If you want some fantastic Indian food, you have to head over to Berkeley or Fremont, the latter city is home of the largest Indian population in the U.S. Also, the Afghan food at Kabul in San Carlos is pretty good. Meat, meat and more meat, in tasty kabob form! Down in San Jose, you have a HUGE Vietnamese population, so you know there is good Pho to be had. Also, the Chinatown over in Oakland is larger (by land) than San Francisco and offers food just as good as any in San Francisco (Legendary Palace is a must for lovers of good Dim Sum). And a little out of the way place that I think has better food than Chez Panisse (been there) is Chez T.J.'s in Mountain View, a city that is the forgotten ugly stepchild to much richer and snootier Palo Alto next door. And if you do make it to Mountain View, a trip to La Costena (corner of Middlefield and Rengstorff) for the most friggin' awesome chicken mole burrito is a must. When SGI, the comupter company, existed, the programmers created a program so they could send email orders for burritos and have it come out on a fax just for this place.
Come back to the Bay Area. Come back and experience something beyond a taco truck in Oakland (I'm not disparaging them, I love good taco truck food too!) for food beyond San Francisco city limits.
Oh, House of Prime Rib? Better prime rib to be had at The Albany in Cheyenne, WY and buffalo prime rib at The Gun Barrel (a former taxidermy museum) in Jackson Hole, WY. Two must stops for any respectable PETA member (People for EATING Tasty Animals).
You hit some of the highlights, but next time maybe go a bit underground..props to finding This is It tortas, which most locals don't even know about...but next time, maybe go the Alemany Farmers Market, where real people shop, or to the Civic Center Farmers market and fight it out with Tiny old Chinese ladies. Go to Mission Street and get a bacon dog. Check out the tiny Pupusa places that line Mission south of Cesar Chavez...bascially stay away from the NE quadrant of the city and you'll see more of the real SF.
what was the name of the sushi resturant in oakland that imports 95% of the fish from japan? that place looked amazing, didn't get the name - sushi stable?
ppfft... reading all these "worst episode ever" comments from Frisco-ites. Can't you see why now everyone outside of town thinks you're all thin-skinned hypocrites?
Every viewpoint is great, in San Francisco... unless you disagree with the lib-mafia.
whooooo!
More taco trucks...okay we get it. Tacos are good...tacos are cheap....enough with the taco trucks. Do a show about SF and you a quarter of it eating tacos in Oakland...what a waste of time.
after going to uc berkeley and sampling such from st. alice and then settling in new york, bourdain only confirms my covert feelings of berkeleyans. i was always suspicious of the militant foodies with waters being the first and foremost, yes the chino farms part is an egregious lack of reality, but in a sense, i feel sad for what has happened to california cooking, waters has faded to a muttering memory and chez panisse is no longer a destination, french laundry has an outpost in new york so no need to go there, if it weren't for napa, sfo as a culinary destination would be irrelevant, which unfortunately, i believe it has already become. while i don't fully embrace new york's love of pig, gentrified fast food, speakeasies, and political irreverence, the culinary scene is here, and really here only.
i don't know who this Anthony Bourdain character is, but if he likes Brian Jonestown Massacre, he's alright by me.
As a native born San Franciscan, the show felt "rushed" to me. Come back soon. Rob A.
i was born in san francisco in 1946 and was grew up in the mission and north beach areas.Im an italian boy and love to watch your series and i was especially looking forward to your show on san francisco.Boy was i dissapointed.I dont know who showed you around or took you to these spots, besides the house of prime rib,but they should be fired.You have poet who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground about sf and you go to every yuppie piece of crap place in sf.You go to the mission and eat a friggen boloney and mayo sandwich when right down the street is the best deli in sf.A little further is 24th which has been there way longer than the places you went to in the middle of latino town.They have the oldest tamale palor in sf.You go to some yuppie sushi place when you have the freshest seafood around at scomas.I love you Tony but you were way off the mark with this show.Next time your town look me up and i'll show you the real sf whether it be chinese,italian or mexican.Very dissapointed Tony but i'll still watch you.Almost fell asleep on this one
OK, as a native of the Bay Area who lives in the Oakland Hills, I have this to say: All you silly whiners who lament the fact that Bourdain didn't visit the place *you* thought he should are ridiculous. If you're so upset that your special little spot didn't get airtime, then write a blog or get your own show. Then you can enlighten the rest of us with your "authentic" places. Bourdain and his crew can only do so much. Get it? And no matter what was shown and what was highlighted, we'd still have a whine fest going on here. Basically, you all just provide grist for the mill for all the people out there who think Bay Area denizens are navel gazing lunatics.
I love the fact that Tony's "act" is really just a response to the overwhelming wave of kindness and compassion that has taken over the culinary world. It's not about "rabbit food" anymore. We have proven that we can create beautiful and amazing food from the bounty of the earth and no being has to endure horrific suffering for it. Tony is like an angry elementary schoolboy who is playing "I am the biggest ass****" except the only one playing is him. Time to grow up.
This show was not a deep as I would have expected Tony to be particularly because he DOES like SF.
Were you trying to disguise your liking for us so as to NOT show favoritism or to be accused of food elitism?
I've lived here now for over thirty years, and I wonder now if we have grown stale, OR, did the production team not do adequate research? If you google SF, or even check out our Yelp! here in the Bay Area, you could get even more than the standard places that you covered, which I felt was 50% of the show last night.
You need to get back here, bro. There's the kid in Mission district who takes over a Mexican restaurant on its downtime and turns out incredible Chinese food where people stand in lines for for hours. There's the Adobo Hobo cart at Dolores Park, and the burgeoning "Underground Restaurant" scene.
We are evolving here - your "No Reservations" team needs an update, and away from NYC-centric research.
JW, I will tell you why people are down on Alice. She isn't a chef and never was. She piggy backed her hard working, sweating chefs and cooks to stardom. She is a good restauranteur, but not a chef. As someone who is sweating it out now, it is hard to deal with a office dwelling "chef" hanging in the air conditioning, and putting on a chef coat when the cameras appear.
he sounds more and more whiny..
we get it.
you hate vegetarians.
you believe in killing animals and eating their bloody flesh.
your purely carnivore smutfest reeks of inauthenticity.
how much more unbalanced can you be..
i have seen you "oohing and ahing" over the most pretentious snooty restaurants in your shows in melbourne and spain and you come to the foodie capital of the US and eat crap just to be "original".
I've lived in S.F. for 15 years and I think you nailed it. Taco truck!!!! My friend had his wedding reception there. Just curious, did you avoid eating a single vegetable in the entire episode as an intentional middle finger to Alice?
I see two indisputable facts based on the comments and the show.
1) People will always defend their town, and out-of-town folks NEVER eat at the right places. And locals will somehow always complain about tourists taking over their favorite spots. I have no clue how those two items resolve.
2) Tony: I know you don't read these, so this is more for me than you, but... I really think you are starting to lose the real edge you used to have. I agree with FGH on a point. You praise street food and simple home cooked fare, and yet you also heap praise on dishes that cost more than my car payment. Which one is the true cuisine Tony? Tacos from a roach coach at $2 a pop, or $50 for 2 grams of quail liver sauteed in duck fat and garnished with asparagus foam?
Food nourishes us. It keeps us alive. At it's core, that's it. While "Life is too short to eat bad food" is a good saying, I also believe that food is in danger of becoming the rusted metal heap at an art gallery. You know the one, the ugly mass of steel that everyone oohs and aahs at because they want to appear hip. For me, I'll take the taco and recycle the heap.
Take care.
no el farolito in the mission?
no tacos sinaloa in oakland (way better than the pupusa place on foothill where you went)
and also I see on the site you went to the distillery in alameda, but it wasn't on the show
I heard you breezed through Pirate cat radio home of the bacon latte - i did a radio show there on food blogging - glad you got a little bit of that delicately placed smug veneer we all know and love.
Tony
you hit it right to the point. SF really is a city of odd juxtapositions that works out in a madly beautiful way. Three generations of family living there tells me we knew something good when we saw it. Next time your in town, head over to Zietgiest my go to bar for years. My favorite beer is Moonlight Brewery dark and delicious Death and Taxes Ale. If youre lucky, Tamale Lady will be there, with her cooler chock full of some of the best homemade tamales and hot sauce you will ever have. I hope you got a chance to grab a maple with bacon crumble donut in the deep mission...if not its worth coming back for.
San Francisco is indeed the town of both Alice Waters and Dirty Harry. Well put, and I think you did a pretty good job of highlighting both sides (and the middle - in the form of R & G). Glad you did the taco truck thing, and double glad you ordered the cabeza (my regular order from my favorite truck). You missed some of my favorite San Francisco treats from this end of the spectrum - especially banh mi and bo 7 mon (7 delicious courses of beef). You could also have done your whole episode on the other end of the spectrum. There are a lot of serious food artisans in the Bay Area, producing incredible cheeses and ice creams for example, or purveying the choicest of meats. One of my recent favorites is 4505 Meats, makers of the most delicate and delicious chicharones in the world. Cocktails too have become a serious business in San Francisco, and to witness the craftsmanship that goes into, say, a sazerac at Bloodhound is a beautiful thing indeed.
Overall, excellent episode as always.
lee, if zeitgeist is your go to bar, learn how to spell it correctly.
Anthony, anthony, anthony! Frisco kid, return to the real coast!
My garden here in the east (gloucester) is bursting with an abundance of fresh veggies, and the locals are selling Jersey tomatoes (my favorite), so where are the authentic Gazpacho Recipes? Have you lost interest in the backyard gardener? Did u ever have interest in the backyard gardener? I grow more than veggies!
What a lame & tame vision of SF. Tony, I expected a much deeper dive into my hometown. I agree with one commenter above who said that it seemed more like SF in the 90's than in 2009. It's not that Red Java House isn't awesome, but it's not news.
Incanto? Noe Valley nuevo-italiano, really? If you're going to go there, you could have at least mentioned the WAVE of excellent new Italian places like Delfina, Bar Bambino, Beretta, etc (Farina is NOT on my list).
China Town? Man, that's dated. Even a visit to BSS in "new China Town" would have been a decade behind the times, but closer to the present. The sushi place.. OK I guess - at least it is current... Better would have been to check out the sustainable locavore sushi at Tataki, since that is much more in line with what SF food is all about these days. Tadich Grill is a classic, hard to argue there, but Tadich AND House of Prime Rib AND Aub-Zam-Zam? Give me a break.
Seems like someone was asleep at the wheel on this one. Call me next time.
Nice piece: unfortunately, SF can't claim the Count Five: they were from San Jose.
Brian Jonestown Massacre? Ehhh...I'd like to see their genius who claims he can play 200 instruments actually make something interesting come out of any of them.
I'm surprised he didn't name check any of the pre-Dead Kennedys punk bands, like Crime. That would be quite the signifier of hipness.
While I was overjoyed to see a San Francisco episode, I was really shocked and disappointed to see Anthony promoting (vis featuring) the restaurant R&G Lounge in Chinatown. Though I admit to having eaten there, and having enjoyed their crab, I more recently learned they proudly serve Sharkfin Soup.
I found it sad and ironic that this episode featured that particular restaurant so close to another network's Shark Week, when any additional business that restaurant receives due to this additional press will in some ways go to promote the finning industry.
I know Anthony is not a huge activist when it comes to animal cruelty in relation to food, I just wished that his guide could have found a less well known spot in Chinatown to feature.
On another note, R&G Lounge has LOUSY service for anyone not a celebrity with cameras bobbing overhead. I've NEVER received anything resembling acceptable service there, and getting a drink at your table? Good luck, if you can gain eye contact from your waiter post-ordering of food.
The whole episode kind of felt detached, and not as genuine as his other shows. This Bay Area native was pretty disappointed.
A SF transplant from 25 years ago- I missed half of the show and was totally bummed- Tony we know you love SF! We do too and for all its ecentricities we are especially proud! I would recommend Essensia restaurant and the soul food at "Hard Knox Cafe" your next time in town.. (I too love Swan Oyster Depo.) Will look forward to the re-run of your SF show so I can see the entire show.
Excellent episode. I would have preferred an all Dirty Harry episode ("What Would Harry Eat") but you successfully combined "The Streets of San Francisco" with the Beat Poets.
dude--- next time when you're in sf you gotta contact me. i must show you some chicken and waffles, peanut dumplings, danger dogs, super burritos, the speakeasy brewery, zeitgeist and 40's in dolores park. look at sf through a younging's eyes--i grew up in sf [im 6th generation, i come from a long line of twisters] and was basically bottle-fed wine and coffee since i popped out of the womb of my wine rep mother. high grade upbringing, if i don't say so myself.
come back and i'll show you yet another face of this wacky land.
Chino's sells lovely little vegetables and strawberries and the like. Most of the people who work there are pretentious self important veg-elitists who think they, and only they, grow lovely produce. It seems only natural they should sell their overpriced produce to a like minded restaurant who supports "local" produce that comes from 477.2 miles away.
I am so fed up with the food elitist rubbish, it's food for God's sake, you eat it, embrace it and make it something ALL can enjoy and celebrate. I totally support region farm to table cuisine, farmstead, artisan, farmers' markets etc etc.
All this reminds me of condescending sommeliers and their self inflated wine lists when I go to places like this, just give me the rosé and stop alienating people. That is NOT the way to change people's consciousness.
Blah, Blah, Blah...
Where's the chowder in a sourdough bowl?
man, I love my adopted town - came here 20 years ago and never left...
But don't forget the much maligned Oakland for hands-down-great food! Pho in Chinatown (which is actually SE Asia Town and as much Viet as Chinese); the old Chinese lady selling fish heads from the sidewalk near the Friday Farmer's Market (makes a great curry I can attest); the taco trucks in Fruitvale; great watering holes all over with serious drinks; Alameda (just off the shore) with the amazing St. George Distillery; Home-made larb in the Lao stores on International; African food at the Ashby Street flea market (in Berkeley) and soul food in Oakland. So much that's great, and gets overlooked by those looking only at San Francisco and Berkeley's gourmet ghetto.
Don't get me wrong - I live in the Gourmet Ghetto, and I love SF, but Oaktown is where it's at these days!
Tony, THANK YOU FOR VISITING OAKLAND. I live there. I was born there. I'm raising my family there. To everyone who complained that all he visited was taco trucks, um...when was the last time you saw anything positive about Oakland on TV, especially about the food? The show could have easily never even mentioned Oakland, but when I saw it midway through I was so proud. And Tony's interview was heartfelt, sincere and not at all condescending.
So thanks, Tony! When you come back, we (my wife and I) would like to buy you a Buddha's Palm at Luka's, then chicken and greens at Nellie's!
Yeah, you missed the boat in Oakland. Great bowls of noodles (which you obviously love) was totally passed on by. Next time you're in town, drop me a line for the noodle tour of the East Bay.
I was lucky enough to have dinner at Alice's restaurant. Best pork loin and glass of wine I have ever had!
I just did a search - am I correct - Tony has not visited Nicaragua!? WTF!!! Totally off topic but Mr. Bourdain - VISIT NICARAGUA - Fall in Love - with the people and the FOOD!
I'll be your personal guide..
Don't be scared!
Olga
Ya know, Tony -- if it wasn't for Alice and her peers, who broke the ground for the trends that yet sustain you, what would you be? A bank teller? Cut her some slack. And about that sanctimonious thing -- pot, meet kettle.
i used to abhor farmers' markets until my trip to southeast asia last month. fruit and vegetables are meant to be enjoyed right off the vine/branch/etc. i never thought papaya would taste so sweet until i had a fresh picked piece in malaysia. (however, i still can't eat durian despite reading that malaysian durian is superior to the others) that's why i would pay extra for that just picked taste rather than that canned taste we've come to expect from the mainstream markets. just a thought.
please don't let a. waters discolor your view of the bay area. i still haven't tried chez panisse (nor have the desire to) as you've seen from going to oakland, just crossing the bridge (10 - 15 min drive) takes you into a whole diff't territory. just travel north into marin or south to the peninsula, south bay and you'll have diff't experiences. i've only lived here for 9 years but i've love how diverse and the variety of foods and experiences you can have here. if only i can find decent barbecue here. for snowboarding, go to tahoe. ribfest will be in reno labor day weekend. for oysters, go to tomales bay. while you're there go kayaking or hiking. south bay, we have great vietnamese and korean food and a couple good places for crawfish (crawdaddy's, boiling crab) the peninsula has great japanese, a place for lobster rolls, shabu shabu, ramen. and in the city of sf, i love chapeau's seared foie gras, ino's omakase sushi, live's live uni, san tung's chicken wings & black bean noodle, arang's chicken gizzards, bodega bistro's kickass pho broth, haha, too much wine. anyway, maybe you can try these places the next time you're in the area? (the sf episode was good. i know where i want to go to try sushi next and where i want to avoid for heartburn)
He was tipsy in every seen
scene - sorry
As a recently (five years) transplanted San Franciscan now living in NYC, I'd have to agree with you on most counts. The city still has its pockets of charm, and you can't go wrong with any of the cuts or the creamed spinach at the HOPR, and Sotto Mare on Green St in North Beach is a great alternative to Swans for fresh oysters. But as you've noted, one must maneuver selectively to enjoy the city while also avoiding its rampant, pointedly skewed political BS and liberal posturing. It's also far too full of self-adulation and misplaced snobbery for a place that can't deal with an ultra-aggressive homeless population and that gives clowns like Supervisor Chris Daly a job.
It says something that I had to move to New York City to find a more evenly-balanced urban vibe while still having access to the big city experience. Still - climb up on a hill when the fog is sitting just so, scope out those other-worldly views, and it's easy to forget about all those blowhard yahoos and leftist soldiers basking in their own irrelevancy just below. Also, Specs is a good joint for a beer on a quiet Wednesday night ..
I am a big fan of your show - I even tried to stomach your first show on your nemesis station, Food Network. My one complaint was that you didn't really feature anyone originally from SF. Wait, maybe the guy you ate with at Tadich (around the corner from my office) and the liquor store in the Mission. I'm a bay area girl that has a love/hate relationship with this city or town since you said about our fair city in your Chicago episode...I love meat, real dairy and never considered becoming a vegetarian. Each time a Vegan tries to convert me my next urge is to eat a bacon/cheeseburger without a napkin in their face. I don't consider myself very PC at all and if anything I'm the furthest thing from being called 'crunchy'. If I remember to recycle my bottles and paper I call that my ecological contribution!
You made me love my city all over again thanks and coincidentally my husband is from New Jersey and his dad use to take him to Ruts Hut all the time...hopefully I can spot you in SF in the near future!
You really wanted to find something to dislike about SF. I completely understand your expectation of the pretentiousness of many of the folks that waive the banner of "I am a cool because of the food I make or eat".
Despite your predisposition against all that the SF food "scene" symbolizes, I think the reason you actually couldn't find as much fault as you sought (at the ferry building farmer's market, for example). Is that much of SF food is genuine, not the posers and imitators that the talented and creative folks in this area have inspired. In other words, it's not "trying" to be granola, organic, locavore etc -- it just IS. Not that there's not some exceptions, but I don't think Alice Waters, or the other cooks are waiving the banner of local organic etc as a gimmic. That's just the way they are. Yes, San Franciscans can be a rather smug bunch and our attitude toward food is no exception. But, we need yuppies -- isn't it grand that a farmer, a cheesemaker, a butcher etc can actually make a decent living pursuing their passion. It comes down to what motivates these folks, if it's their passion then I don't see how you can find fault. As for posers that are waiving this banner purely for marketing or image, I completely agree with you. They've ruined the words "foodie" "artisanal" and even "organic" for me.
Flaunting PC has become a PC cliche in itself. I've never inflicted my vegetarian views on anyone, I just try to walk my talk because I believe animal welfare is important. And I think all we can do is follow our own hearts on these matters and live with whatever consequences may or may not exist in response.
But . . . the modern culinary scene . . . even here in the SF Bay Area . . . has become so anti-animal-welfare that it's evolved into it's own form of PC: how dare you not like offal? How dare anyone question how this meat arrived at my plate? Hey, it's "happy meat," it's okay.
So one form of stringent thinking replaces another and becomes its own immovable feast, if you will.
I do long for a day when considerations of compassion for animals aren't viewed with such animosity. But then, there are a lot of people benefitting from that particular form of exploitation so it shouldn't be a surprise.
Pleased to see you still love our City, despite the pretentiousness. I love living here and when I didn't live here I wanted to. Come back again and give the beach areas a visit. Out here in the foggy Sunset/Parkside district is where it's at.
See you in January in Santa Rosa.
Lori
"If the San Francisco area weren't the perceived headquarters of anti-foie gras forces, I doubt very much there'd be an opposing force doing something as crazy as developing a foie gras vodka."
Right on, Tony! The light casts a shadow, one implies the other, etc. It's like being a Canadian: you're largely defined by how you are NOT like an American. So, here's to SF, despite the pretentiousness of many who live there.
I loved the contrast between the two San Franciscos, the show was wonderful (as they always are). I just re-read Kitchen Confidential during vacation and it was even better the second time around. It is truly incredible to hear about your life and see what you have overcome to be an incredible successful chef and travel host. Congratulations on that, seriously. It's not a small feat. I'll be in Louisville for Idea Festival and am excited about hearing you speak. Me and a friend are planning a roadtrip on the Bourbon Trail after...you would be welcome to come with us! Bourbon and open roads (and some good food of course)...would make a great episode!
Lauren
dude the SF show was kinda lame compared to how much cool stuff you do in other cities.
SF has sooooooooo much you did not even mention.
SHould have done a segment on the Tenderloin at least,you woulda did great there.MAybe next time!!!
CAll me if you wanna see the REAL San Francisco!!!!!!!!
Brian MArtin
1-415-932-6161
brian.1204@hotmail.com
They didn't have the common decency to spring for a V-8 Mustang? Shame on you, Travel Channel.
Hey someone, what kind of car was that?
Tony, Tony, Tony. Please don't be upstaged by Chef Gordon Ramsey! I'm an outdated culinary student looking for what I can in life.
If we could all live the traveling dream like you do, the travel channel wouldn't be worth watching!
I am from just south of Pittsburgh, read your book twice, sent comments on your blogs quite often!
Yet have not heard anything back.
From one author and cook to another, why, oh why, did you skip over Pittsburgh in the rust belt?
You missed such a conglomeration of cultural food in this city!
It's not just the Steelers, you'll find some of the hardest drinking Slovaks and Croatians in this country.
Not to mention some of the greatest Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, and Italian food you'll ever find in the rust belt!
Email me sometime!
Next time, enlist the guys of Green Day to accompany you around the SF/Bay area. And ask them wtf they were thinking with American Idiot...oops, I mean 21st Century Breakdown :P
Leave it to me to negate my own "wit" with a typo. I meant to say American Idiot #2.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, and if I ever meet you, Anthony, I would like you to have a bowl of something good with me... rice noodles, pork and garlic broth, sliced egg, slowly-boiled chicken, bean sprouts, chives, basil, spring onions, lime, chili paste, and sesame. In my very own neck of the woods.
locavores aren't all bad you know :) but it really is just like you said - it's all about balance! local foie gras anyone??
I agree with an earlier responder that you should come back and do an "anything but SF" show. Not to mention that the wine country (and there is so much of that, from north to south in CA) could be a whole show on its own. How about a showdown between France, Chile and any part of California wine country--food, chichi spas, downtrodden graper pickers and of course buckets of wine. Just a thought.
is foie gras widely embraced everywhere but san francisco?
Brian Jonestown Massacre???? those effin junkies??? ok, fun to watch onstage with a few good tunes....but seriously....you were within one block of my house and I could have taken you to the salt-and-pepper ice cream place, the new sushi place with giant sashimi and a bar that always smells like ass and dirty hot-dog water....what say....Next time?
oh....and by the way....Zeitgeist would never EVER let anyone....not even AB film there....trust me!
Okay-- what the f-ck Tony?
You ate a freaking hot dog sandwich at a Mission liquor store and then ranted about why should anyone care where their food comes from? House of Freaking Prime Rib?? Overhyped Chinatown instead of anti-tourist Little Saigon, home of the two dollar super fresh Vietnamese sandwich?
Granted-- You went to the Ferry Building and made peace. Red's. You had some good Sushi. You love Swan Oyster depot (those guys are so awesome). And there are only so many minutes in an episode. I get it.
But to belly up to a counter and shovel a seven pound tub of meet fat in your face rather than check out real gems just felt... kind of lazy on the research side of things.
And to answer your question about organics, or why people should care about their food's origin: people eat pesticides, people get sick, get cancer and die. Sure, I hate self righteous health Nazi's just as much as the next girl, but that whole angle felt a little forced, like you were picking a fight, like Ann Coultier, only with tomatoes.
Maybe I thought this episode sucked because I've lived in SF forever and frankly, when it comes to what's good, I just know better than you.
You can please some of the people some of the time...
Yeah, underneath the crap SF is still a two fisted drinking town. Too bad 99% of the people here hate that.
Cynth...don't pat yerself on the back. You live here forever, you BETTER know better than a TV show...even AB's. And btw....Zeitgeist sucks.
Cheers Anthony! Am a staunch fan...
Hey, Tony. Next time you're in the Bay Area, drive south about 40 minutes to San Carlos and eat at Refuge on Laurel. I think it might be your cup of java. Not bacon maple vegan java, but I think you might like their house cured pastrami and they have some damned decent fries.
Marc--that was my point. Way to grasp the obvious.
And Chloe, you're totally right. Easy for me to criticize, I know.
Don't get me wrong-- I like Tony's show--a lot-- and I appreciate his being the ambassador for keeping it real. I get it. BELIEVE me I get it. And I do think he did some things right in SF, as I mentioned.
But I'm just not going to sit here and kiss his ass like the the rest of the sycophants when I think he did a city I happen to live in a disservice.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with asking where your food comes from. And I don't think there's anything wrong with liking organic or vegan food, and I eat meat.
I think Tony picks a fight for the sake of picking a fight because it's a TV show and that's what sells. Political pundits like Ann Coultier do it all the time and it bugs the s--t out of me. He's making TV. I GET it. But it doesn't mean I have to like it or buy it.
So continue the praise fest and eat what you're served. Yawn.
I love the show (that said, i am a SF-ite and do not own a tv, so rely on friends houses to enjoy it), love the book and loved that you love my city. We all want to hate it, but just cant peel ourselves away from the juxtaposed universes of hippies and yuppies and the resulting cacophony of food and drink they produce!
From one Jersey guy to another... always enjoy your show.
My wife & I missed you @ Grand Cafe[The Monaco] by a mere 20minutes during your shoot week there. Always good food & cocktails.
... we'll be visiting SF this wknd for the food & pleasure, and have sites on visiting Sebo, Red's, and the House of Prime Rib... thx for all your tours... did King Citric in Ireland, '07, after seeing the good time you had there.
Tony, if you're ever near Long Beach, stop in... good food & drink @ the homestead... safe journeys!
I briefly spoke to Alice about your review. She acknowledges her "oversite to the environment" and hastily added that she was trying to maintain her signature flavor...but realized that a personal evolution must take place. I hold Tony in the highest regard, both as a man of taste and as a tasty man!
Thank you!
L.D.
Oakland, CA
The bold-faced contradiction that San Francisco is with it's veganism and foie gras furor, the San Francisco episode failed to really bring that message to light. In fact, I though the episode was a little too lite... like Snackwells type lite. It didn't have the true grit that I expect from a car chase through Russian Hill and North Beach.
Now that wasn't so hard, now. It would be nice if you could knock the chip off your shoulder when it comes to Southern CA, LA in particular. Had to laugh when you raved about taco trucks in Oakland...cause you didn't even go to one in LA of all places. Given that the N. Cal hate for S. Cal started out of racism because LA is closer to a certain country...kind of an oversite. You never visited Musso & Frank, or Cliftons (not for the food)....
Try to be a little open minded it won't kill you.
Whatever with the Grateful Dead and Dirty Harry - LA is Warren Zevon, X ,Tom Waits and Chinatown.
Anthony,
We love you! Please come back to SF. If you can go for tortas at a liquor store, We dare you to come over our home for a real home cooked meal.
I'm a Jersey girl who climbed over a heap of personal prejudices (ie feeling that my mother ship was NYC) to utterly love living in San Francisco. Now I feel sublime gratitude for being able to live here.
And here's something you might want to experience next time you come back -- the Bacon Dog Cart:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/bacon-dog-cart-san-francisco
"God touches each hot dog wrapped in bacon. Satan does too." - a Yelp reviewer
I used to work with Veggies from Chino's back in 1986 at a way too ahead of it's time restaurant in Encinatas CA.
San Francisco put me on track ot becoming free from tobacco use. It's not a maybe cause of cancer anymore.
A non smoking friend of mine died of cancer three years ago, he was only 49. He ate charred meat.
That S.F. is the bastion of smugness is OLD NEWS. That's where you went wrong, Tone. You thought that battle still had to be fought. It's O-V-E-R. What you ended up doing was showing your datedness and foolishly dumping on healthy eating, which is essentially NOT political and is only seen as that by idjitz. If you want to make it that, well then keep on dating yourself.
People sure do get upset about how one dude eats and decides what he likes.
Southern girl (SC) never had any desire to visit SC--but martinis at 11:00 got my attention--LOVE love love your show- -ready to try San Fran and anyplace else you recommend!
Correction: never any desire to visit CA! Perhaps too many martinis this evening--absolutely love your show--with or without martinis!
as a californian, i liked this episode.. i wished though you covered more of north beach, at least walked by city lights bookstore. also i do agree, reds is amazing...
One of my favorite things that you've ever said was something along the lines of, "I am completely aware of the possibility that I may be wrong about everything." I always have tried to think in that way. There's nothing more grotesque than a person who, ignoring evidence that they are wrong, will never admit it. Perhaps since San Francisco has the annoying qualities you listed above, it in turn causes other Bay area peoples who are equally annoyed to over-compensate and become shameless meat eaters and basically do everything in opposition to San Francisco's stereotypes. One thing you may want to reconsider one day is your view on Vegetarians. I agree with you that foie gras is delicious, but could it be morally wrong? Probably. I think your love for foie gras maybe has led you to not want to see that it in fact could be immoral. Your argument that you don't like Vegetarians because it's a first world luxury could be looked in a different way. One might even say that it's morally obligatory to be a Vegetarian if you have the means to do so. You undoubtedly can't expect developing countries to adopt Vegetarian principles, but perhaps the affluent find that it's their duty to minimize suffering since they CAN. That's the way I look at it. I'm not a Vegetarian, but that's because I'm selfish and love my food. I have gotten annoyed by Vegetarians but at times have learned to admire them because they're adopting a strict, expensive, and uncomfortable lifestyle mostly for the sake of saving animals that don't need to die.
Sue, are you joking? Tony did visit a taco stand while in Los Angeles. He went down to Hawthorne or Lennox to go try Acosta Tacos. If there's one thing I despise more than people who can't admit they're wrong is a person who simply states things as facts without even knowing. Also, if you're going to say something like Northern Californians hate Southern Californians because of racism and the fact that they're closer to Mexico, you need to come up with some kind of historical data to prove that fact. Anybody can just say things like that, if you're going to make an outrageous claim like that, you're going to have to back it up. So, obviously the comment about Bourdain being closed-minded can be ignored since the premise of him being closed-minded was based on something that we don't know is true or not. Sounds like you need to be a little more open-minded Sue.
You should come to the other part of California that nobody ever mentions and where the people are real. Come to the San Joaquin Valley. We have great food here AND we are not PC at all.
You are the luckiest bastard I know. A true foodie. Thanks.
Wish I could go with you.
DEWD. REALLY?
Maybe you would hate SF less if you didn't go to the Ferry Building Farmer's Market. Sure, yeah, yeah, they were nice to you. That is because you are FAMOUS. Real San Franciscans go to the ALLEMANY FARMER'S MARKET. You know, the one where you can buy a LIVE CHICKEN?
Dewd. You need to fire your research staff if they sent you to the Ferry Building. That is the total TOURIST farmer's market. I mean, WOW - if ANYone can appreciate a chicken plucked before your very eyes I would think it would be you.
Ok this is pretty ascerbic but my fiance and I do love you despite your AWFUL taste in SF Farmer's Markets...
So dewd - GET WITH THE PROGRAM and go to ALLEMANY, buy a LIVE CHICKEN, see the REAL selection at lower prices, and maybe, just maybe, the secret animal-killing corner will pluck your chicken for you. You can only hope...
tony,,im one in a million people that enjoy your shows and your truly somewhat humane perspective on ur journeys.. it is really nice to be able to identify with someone that is not all fabricated, and is true to oneself.. I dont miss a show , and look forward to the next.. Im addicted with new cultures, food, and seeing the world.. I wish only u could answer one question.. in all ur journies.. what is the 1 place u like the best and why? From ur shows it seems to be vietnam.. Only i would love to hear it from u.. i know this is a shot in the dark.. ur the best bro
shannon
So I finally got around to watching this episode after being away for a while, and how in the hell did you not completely bust the chops of that hypocritical, so-called vegan with his "Maple Bacon Latte?"
I'll admit I'm intrigued by the drink and am 100% anti-vegan but how can the dude sit there and say the drink has no meat in it when it's got bacon fat that came from rendering down 10 pounds of bacon?
Intellectual dishonesty like that is why San Francisco has a reputation for being filled with a bunch of liberal whack-jobs.
Re Post #26: I agree COMPLETELY.
Re Post #22: Joe's. I used to eat at the one in the Marina and the one in Marin when I was a kid. Two weeks ago, I was in Scottsdale for a conferences, and I got roped into eating at the Cheesecake Factory. After perusing the 24-page menu, you know what I ordered? The Original Joe's special.
I dnt care if ure angry or not. I just think ure freakin hot!! omg!! =]
Try to be a little open minded it won't kill you
There is an amazing fusion taco truck that serves a selection of tacos close to none. From great mexican and fish tacos to crazy korean, indian and hawaiian tacos. They carry rice bowls and pan fried noodle bowls that you choose your own toppings. Great food great prices. You could find there location via twitter or facebook. Tonys taco truck best selection of tacos in the bay area. A must try!!! They offer multiple catering options
Yup, SF...love it and hate it, all at the same time. Born and raised, high school and college...moved away a few times, but always moved right back.
The cons are obvious...homeless epidemic, rediculous rent checks, outlandish and absurd city supervisers, and the most embarrassing con of all...YELP!!!
But the pros are more subtle, found underneath that first layer of fog and sidewalk fecies. A fernet at the R Bar, a midnight meal at Brazenhead, a coffe at Philz to go with that Dynamo donut, a hip-hop show at the Red Devil...a beautiful, educated, half-Asian girl that can go drink for drink with you!
That's my SF!!
Well I'm glad that you're not angry :)
Jozie #129
Exactly... not exactly breaking news...yawn.
Love your show. You always strive to be fair. I live in SF. And it may be a good place to visit, but it is a vortex. It takes all and gives very little in return.
I miss SF. I lived for 3 years and am planning to move back in a year. There is no other place in the USA anything like it. The food is to die for, the people are amazing and the weather is perfect. I truly know the meaning of "I left my heart in San Francisco". It is an adult playground.
Tony! Oh how I wish you would set up shop with us in san fran, we could really show you a good time. While you were here you came into Waterbar, where I happen to work, and I was delighted to serve you a massive shellfish tower. Hope you enjoyed.. come see us again soon.